Big and Little Podcast
A podcast for adults, about families, kids, and our world. Big & Little explores relevant topics ranging from play, learning, creativity, resilience, and health through interviews with people from varied professions and who have different perspectives and experiences. Hosted by Boston Children’s Museum President and CEO Carole Charnow.
New
Empathy Series
Street Medicine and the Power of Empathy: A Conversation with Dr. Jim O’Connell
In the second episode of the Museum’s new podcast series on empathy,
Boston Children’s Museum President and CEO Carole Charnow sits down
with Dr. Jim O’Connell, President of the Boston Health Care for the
Homeless Program (BHCHP). For nearly four decades, Dr. O’Connell has
walked the streets of Boston, redefining what health care can look
like. In addition to leading BHCHP, he serves as Assistant Professor
of Medicine at Harvard Medical School and Board Chair of Winter
Walk.
In their conversation, Dr. O’Connell shares the unlikely path that led him to street medicine, the shelter nurses who taught him some of his most lasting lessons, and how his work has challenged common assumptions about homelessness. He also reflects on the power of community events like Winter Walk, where neighbors who are housed and unhoused walk side by side—breaking down stigma with every step. Learn more about the Winter Walk at: Winter Walk
In their conversation, Dr. O’Connell shares the unlikely path that led him to street medicine, the shelter nurses who taught him some of his most lasting lessons, and how his work has challenged common assumptions about homelessness. He also reflects on the power of community events like Winter Walk, where neighbors who are housed and unhoused walk side by side—breaking down stigma with every step. Learn more about the Winter Walk at: Winter Walk
Big & Little Podcast™
March 26, 2026
Empathy Series
The Roots of Empathy: Science, Strategies, & Stories from Boston Children’s Museum & Making Caring Common
How do we define and express empathy? And how might we help the
children (and adults) in our lives learn to practice it for
themselves? In this podcast series, we’ll be diving into all the
different spokes on the wheel of empathy and what it looks like in
action. Kicking off the series, Boston Children’s Museum’s Vice
President of Programs and Exhibits Melissa Higgins sits down with Dr.
Milena Batanova and Kiran Bhai from Making Caring Common, a national
initiative based at the Harvard Graduate School of Education that’s
dedicated to promoting empathy and caring in schools, families, and
communities. Together, we dive into what empathy really means for
children—from the earliest signs in babies and toddlers to the
powerful ways it shapes relationships, kindness, and even social
justice. Discover science-backed strategies for nurturing compassion
at home and in classrooms, hear real-world stories of empathy in
action, and learn how families and educators can help children build
the skills needed to care for others.
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February 4, 2026
Creativity Series
Jazz, Creativity, and Imagination: A conversation with Dr. Bill Banfield and Vaughan Bradley-Willemann
In this next episode of the Big & Little Podcast’s Creativity
Series, two music professionals dive into the transformative power of
jazz music and its impact on children and communities. Vaughan
Bradley-Willemann, lifelong Violinist and Boston Children’s Museum’s
Senior Director of Arts and Social Impact, sits down with composer,
professor, author, and conductor of the Jazz Urbane Collective, Dr.
Bill Banfield, to uncover the magic that happens when young minds
engage with the art of improvisation and musical expression. Discover
how jazz music sparks children’s imagination, the story and vision
behind the Jazz Urbane Collective, tips for parents and caregivers on
cultivating a love of music and the arts in their families, and more.View Episode Transcript
Big & Little Podcast™
June 5, 2024
Creativity Series
Captivating Creations with Bernie Zubrowski
Bernie Zubrowski
has dedicated his career to science education, both in and outside of
the classroom. He has contributed to science curricula at the
Education Development Center and designed numerous children’s science
books, exhibits, traveling exhibits during his time at Boston’s
Children’s Museum, including Bubbles and Raceways. Beyond science
education, Bernie has spent the last 25 years designing and exhibiting
kinetic sculptures, continuing to inspire creativity and scientific
exploration. In this next Creativity Series episode, Museum President
and CEO Carole Charnow interviews Bernie about developing hands-on
exhibits, kinetic sculptures, and art and science curriculum for
children. Learn more about Bernie’s work on his website:
Bernie Zubrowski, his art website:
Synchronizing Art and Science Projects,
list of book publications, or on his
YouTube.View Episode Transcript
Big & Little Podcast™
June 5, 2024
Creativity Series
Music as Expression, Exploration, and Celebration
In this fifth installment of our Creativity Series, Carole Charnow,
the Museum’s President and CEO interviews Ashleigh Gordon the
co-founder, Artistic Director, and violist of Castle of our Skins, a
Boston-based concert and educational series devoted to celebrating
Black Artistry through music. Carole and Ashleigh discuss the
intersections between music, education, and creative expression, the
inspiration behind founding Castle of our Skins, and how to encourage
musical exposure and exploration for children. Learn more about Castle
of our Skins at: https://www.castleskins.org/what-is-coos.htmlView Episode Transcript
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June 5, 2024
Creativity Series
Lifelong Kindergarten, Lifelong Creativity
Today on the show, Boston Children’s Museum President and CEO Carole
Charnow interviews Dr. Mitchel Resnick in the next installment of our
Creativity Series. Mitch Resnick is the LEGO Papert Professor of
Learning Research at the MIT Media Lab and develops new technologies
and activities to engage people (particularly children) in creative
learning experiences. His Lifelong Kindergarten research group
developed the Scratch programming software and online community, used
by millions of young people around the world. Carole talks with Mitch
about his new project OctoStudio, the value of Kindergarten style
learning, the 4 P’s of Creative Learning, the relationship between
technology and creative learning and more.View Episode Transcript
Big & Little Podcast™
February 21, 2024
Creativity Series
Creativity through collaboration
The Museum’s Creativity Series continues with a conversation on the
importance of connection, collaboration, and community. Through a
grant from LEGO, called the LEGO Playful Learning Museum Network,
institutions across the country were tasked with creating a community
of practice that focused on playful learning Joining us today are
three representatives from LEGO’s community of practice who connected
over a shared interest in Tinkering Inventive Playsets, Nick Villagra
from the
Connecticut Science Center, Michael Wong from the
Exploratorium, and Brendan Takenaga from
Boston Children’s Museum. Tune in to learn about how a community of practice operates, where
creativity exists in our work, the power of inspiration, half-baked
ideas, open communication between peers, and more! Learn more about
this partnership on the
Exploratorium Blog. Or connect with our guests by emailing Nick at
[email protected], Michael at [email protected], or
Brendan at [email protected].View Episode Transcript
Big & Little Podcast™
February 6, 2024
Creativity Series
A creative platform for the children, by the children, of the children
The Children’s Art Museum of India, or CAMI for short, is an online
platform and virtual Museum space that enables young artists to submit
their art and share their creativity worldwide. Manya and Krish
founded CAMI in 2022 when they were 14 and 12 years old, respectively.
Since then, the two have been working tirelessly to create and expand
CAMI’s reach and continue to carve out this important space for
children’s creativity. What began as a local initiative for Indian
children to share their art has since grown into an increasingly
global movement. In this next installment in our Creativity Series,
Carole Charnow, the Museum’s President and CEO, talks with Manya and
Krish about founding CAMI, the unique benefits of an online Museum
space, and how to engage and inspire kids to be creative through art.
Learn more about CAMI at: https://www.childrensartmuseumofindia.com/View Episode Transcript
Big & Little Podcast™
November 8, 2023
Creativity Series
Cultivating the Components of Creativity
We’re bringing some creative exploration to the podcast with a special
Creativity Series! Our first guest, Laura Petrovich-Cheney, is an
artist, maker, educator, and the Museum’s current Gallery artist. Her
exhibit, Weathered Shapes, Wooden Quilts brings together the
traditional crafts of wood sculpture and quilt making to show the
potential of rebuilding and hope. In today’s episode the Museum’s
President and CEO Carole Charnow talks with Laura about the
inspiration behind her art, the key components of creativity, and
advice for parents, caregivers, and educators! Learn more about Laura
on her website: https://www.lauracheney.com/View Episode Transcript
Big & Little Podcast™
August 29, 2023

Bringing light to the world through stories
In today’s episode, Boston Children’s Museum’s Vice President of
External Relations, Charlayne Murrell-Smith talks with Research
Scientist, Technologist, Filmmaker, Architect, and Educator, Topper
Carew. Topper recounts his experience growing up in Roxbury, starting
out as an architect and filmmaker, and his advice for crafting
compelling stories. Listeners may be familiar with Topper from his
popular TV sitcom Martin, but it might surprise you to learn of his
rich and varied experiences beyond the film industry. Later in the
episode, we also discuss his upcoming project, This Little Light of
Mine – in space. This project consists of a Space Payload designed to
transport and broadcast a film of children’s choirs around the world
singing “This Little Light of Mine.” We could all use a little more
light in our lives – so, why not extend that brightness to the night
sky and beyond?View Episode Transcript
Big & Little Podcast™
July 27, 2023

Designing for Play
How do we design for play? For two decades Cas Holman has been
designing playthings and playspaces that encourage exploration,
imagination, and collaboration. Through her company Heroes Will Rise,
Cas creates intuitive toys that inspire creative, open-ended play,
including the award-winning Rigamajig, a line of playful building kits
used in schools and public spaces worldwide – and our very own Boston
Children’s Museum. An educator of 13 years and former Associate
Professor of Industrial Design at the Rhode Island School of Design
(RISD), Cas travels the globe to collaborate with thought and industry
leaders in early education, curriculum design, public space, and
childhood advocacy. Her philosophy and approach to designing for play
was recently featured in the award-winning documentary series
“Abstract: The Art of Design” on Netflix. In today’s episode our host,
Neil Tembulkar, the Museum’s Director of Strategic Initiatives, and
Cas discuss how we design for play and empower kids to be creative
problem solvers. Learn more about Cas on her website:
https://casholman.com/View Episode Transcript
Big & Little Podcast™
June 23, 2023

Lifting Our Communities UpTogether
What happens when we’re given the resources and freedom to choose
where our money goes? Tune in to find out. In this episode, the
Museum’s President and CEO Carole Charnow talks with Jesús Gerena, the
CEO of
UpTogether, about the importance of investing and putting trust in the people
we serve. UpTogether is a national organization on a mission to change
policies, systems, and underlying beliefs so that all people in the
United States are seen and supported. Leaning into our community,
social networks, and relationships can make more of a difference than
we might think. By investing in people from historically undervalued
communities, UpTogether helps reinforce autonomy and drive economic
and social mobility for individuals and families. Interested in
learning more? Check out UpTogether’s Podcast,
Moving UpTogether,
or visit the UpTogether Website at: https://www.uptogether.org/.View Episode Transcript
Big & Little Podcast™
March 31, 2022

Meet Sama
Although we are a children’s museum, we don’t often hear directly from
our youth. In this episode we’re changing it up and welcoming our very
first “little” to the Big and Little podcast. Now, don’t let that word
deceive you, today’s guest has a powerful voice and some keen insights
on what it’s like to be a kid in this day and age. Meet Sama Prince,
the goddaughter of Boston Children’s Museum’s President and CEO Carole
Charnow. She joins us all the way from London, England. Hear about
Sama’s school, favorite pastimes, and candid reflections on navigating
life during the pandemic.View Episode Transcript
Big & Little Podcast™
November 21, 2022

How to Help Our Kids “Grow Up Great”
Reaching children in their earliest years not only helps them develop
the cognitive, social, emotional, and physical skills they need to
succeed, but can also inspire lifelong enthusiasm for learning. On
today’s podcast, Boston Children’s Museum President and CEO Carole
Charnow sits down with Dr. Jeanette Betancourt from Sesame Workshop
and Sally McCrady from PNC Bank to learn more about their partnership
– Grow Up Great, an initiative to help prepare children from birth to
age 5 for success in school and life. To access educational resources
and learn more about Grow Up Great check out:
https://sesamestreetincommunities.org/
https://www.pnc.com/en/about-pnc/corporate-responsibility/grow-up-great.htmlView Episode Transcript
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October 14, 2022

Celebrating STEAM in the Museum Space and Beyond
Ahead of the CreatedBy Festival on October 15th, 2022, Digital Content
Manager and Podcast Producer, Kathryn York, interviews Boston
Children’s Museum’s Director of Strategic Initiatives, Neil Tembulkar
about CreatedBy, the prevalence of STEAM in the museum space, and how
to get kids inspired by STEAM. To learn more about the CreatedBy
Festival and free Virtual Workshops, Demos, and STEAM Fun, check out
https://createdbyfestival.org/View Episode Transcript
Big & Little Podcast™
October 11, 2022

Imaginative Play is the Antidote: How to foster children’s creativity, sense of agency, and emotional processing through play
When was the last time you let your imagination take the wheel? As
kids, our imagination created endless possibilities. In the wake of an
increasingly digital age, however, many wonder, does imaginative play
still hold the same space in children’s lives? Hear from Dr. Laura
Rubin, founder of
Portsmouth Neuropsychology Center, about how imaginative play helps children process emotional
experiences, build executive function skills, foster creativity, and
more. Learn more about imaginative play and children’s mental health:
- The Child Mind Institute
- How Re-Framing Our Experiences Can Contribute to Our Well-Being by Dr. Laura Rubin, TEDxPortsmouth
- Make-Believe: Games & Activities for Imaginative Play By Dorothy G. Singer and Jerome L. Singer
Big & Little Podcast™
August 26, 2022

How to Raise Girls Excited About STEM
With just 28% of the science, tech, engineering, and math workforce
made up of women, the STEM gap is very real. How can we as a society
motivate young girls to continue to engage with STEM in a culture
where so many are steered away as they get older? Join tech
trailblazer Madge Meyer as she talks with Carole about her journey to
success as a woman and Asian American immigrant in the STEM fields and
shares strategies for raising young girls excited about STEM.View Episode Transcript
Big & Little Podcast™
April 25, 2022

Closing the Creativity Gap: The Importance of Art in Early Childhood Education
Sadly, thousands of students across the United States do not have
access to arts education. As the founder of ARCK Boston, Sara Mraish
Demeter has made it her mission to give children a voice through the
arts, helping thousands of under-resourced students in Boston access
arts education. Hear from Sara about the importance of closing the
creativity gap through equitable arts education and the power art can
have on our children’s healthy social and emotional development.View Episode Transcript
Big & Little Podcast™
March 22, 2022

Alvin Irby on Inspiring Kids to Identify as Readers
Three simple words can have a profound effect on a child’s life– “I’m
a reader.” Unfortunately for too many children in the US, numerous
challenges and barriers have made these words infrequent. Join Carole
and former kindergarten teacher, founder of Barbershop Books,
comedian, and expert in early literacy Alvin Irby for a conversation
on empowering kids, especially young Black boys and other vulnerable
children, to identify as readers and grow to enjoy learning.View Episode Transcript
Big & Little Podcast™
February 25, 2022
It Doesn’t Have to Be Perfect to Be Wonderful: Strategies for a Low-Stress Holiday Season Your Kids will Remember
No matter what special occasion or tradition you celebrate around this
time of year, along with the cheer can come large amounts of stress
for parents and caregivers juggling a million things while trying to
give their kids a magical season. We wanted to help identify ways to
take the stress out of the season and bring back the meaning with
simple, low to no-cost strategies. Here to help us is guest Meghan
Block, the owner of Boston Moms and a mother of three young children
with an excellent perspective on the challenges that moms and
caregivers face in today’s world.View Episode Transcript
Big & Little Podcast™
December 13, 2021
Innovation in Education Series
Innovation in Education: A Focus on Community, Identity, and Social Justice at Codman Academy
Listen in on a conversation with Codman Academy Charter Public
School’s principal Thabiti Brown and third grade teacher and equity
coordinator Marcus Parker about Codman’s thoughtful education
strategies–teaching for social justice, prioritizing student
questioning and the exploration of identity, making connections
between learning and the world outside the classroom, and engaging
teachers and parents in conversations around equity and inclusion.View Episode Transcript
Big & Little Podcast™
November 18, 2021

Children’s Food Allergies: How prevalent are they and what can we do to help?
Join Carole and guests Drs. Michael Pistiner and Ali Yurkovic for an
important conversation on food allergies in children. As allergy
experts and parents of children with food allergies themselves,
Michael and Ali speak to the prevalence of allergies in children,
their own experiences as parents of kids with allergies, and how
people can get involved in advocacy efforts to protect those with food
allergies in public spaces.View Episode Transcript
Big & Little Podcast™
August 27, 2021
Innovation in Education Series
Innovation in Education: Bethann Jellison and the Cohort Model
Innovation in Education is a new 3-part series that dives into three
schools innovating the traditional schooling model using
non-traditional curriculums, strategies, and values. Our first guest
is Bethann Jellison, principal of the Carlton Innovation School in
Salem, MA. The Carlton School, a public school categorized as a MA
“innovation school” in 2012, uses a cohort model with mixed age groups
in each classroom. Learn about the outcomes for students in these
multi-age classrooms-it may surprise you!View Episode Transcript
Big & Little Podcast™
May 17, 2021

Smart from the Start Director Cherie Craft on supporting families in need during a high-stress time
Carole chats with Cherie Craft, CEO of family support and community
engagement organization Smart from the Start, about strategies for
effectively supporting families in times of need, especially as it
relates to the challenges of the Coronavirus pandemic and an unsettled
political climate.View Episode Transcript
Big & Little Podcast™
August 27, 2020

Our youngest kids need advocates
Carole chats with Amy O’Leary, the director of Strategies for
Children’s “Early Education for All” campaign, about the importance of
advocating for our youngest learners at the policy level, in the
classroom, and within individual families. Listen to learn more about
her years of early education advocacy work and to find out what you
can be doing to support the kids in your community.View Episode Transcript
Big & Little Podcast™
October 7, 2020

Racism and coronavirus add stress to already vulnerable communities
In this episode, Carole talks with Manny Lopes, the CEO of the East
Boston Neighborhood Health Center and a leader in community health
care, about the ways in which Boston’s vulnerable communities are
coping during this challenging time and how today’s uncertainty offers
room for positive change to come.View Episode Transcript
Big & Little Podcast™
June 12, 2020

Dr. Nancy Rappaport discusses strategies for parenting during the pandemic
In today’s episode, Carole chats with psychologist Dr. Nancy Rappaport
about the challenges the pandemic presents for parents and children.
Dr. Rappaport, an Associate Professor of Psychology at Harvard
University Medical School, sheds light on some of the positive effects
families can take away from this historic time.View Episode Transcript
Big & Little Podcast™
May 29, 2020

Coronavirus Pandemic’s Effect on Kids
Boston Children’s Museum CEO and President, Carole Charnow, talks with
Dr. Michael Yogman, a practicing pediatrician in Cambridge,
Massachusetts, about the many challenges the Coronavirus presents for
parents, families, and children.View Episode Transcript
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May 6, 2020





